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dentedtictac |
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Hey fellow MSMers, So, I just got offered a job in New York (I currently live in Chicago) and i have decided to take it. In today's economy, you gotta take
what you can get! So, I'm super excited, I've always wanted to live in New York. However, I do have some reservations. The job will not be paying too
much but I'm okay with finding a job on the side waiting tables to support my lifestyle. Do any of you have any advice on where to find a decent apartment?
I know it's super expensive to live there so I'm alright with living in Brooklyn or Queens. Thanks in advance!
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kellybrf |
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awesome! post nudes
-brian
not all mayer in that sig, the dude on the right is simply flashing the vagina symbol because he ordered an enormous salad
instead of getting a burrito like everyone else at dinner -jb
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graham |
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actually could u post photos in an animal costume?, i know there's a lot of Furries on this board.
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timarie |
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I'm not sure what "not paying too much" means to you but it's expensive living pretty much anywhere in NY, not just Manhattan. For popular
neighborhoods in Brooklyn and Queens be prepared to shell out at least $1200-$1500 a month for a one bedroom. There are definitely exceptions if you look hard
enough or move to a neighborhood that doesn't really have a reputation and is more up and coming.
Most ppl find their apartments through Craigslist but if I was moving from out of state I'd probably just use a broker. Don't pay more than a months rent for the brokers fee. You should be able to find a place within a day or two if you go to decent brokers. You can find roommates and shares on craigslist if that's something you'd be willing to do. As for neighborhoods it really depends on what you're looking to pay, can't be of much help otherwise! |
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dentedtictac |
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Yes, I already am aware that it is expensive to live in NY. That is why I said I need to wait tables as well probably. I have a place to stay through May so I
think I'll go apartment hunting during that time. Hopefully I"ll find something decent. Do a lot of people live in NJ and take the PATH in?
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dentedtictac wrote: NJ is the asshole of America
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timarie |
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uh goodluck 'tude-y
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RichardYoung |
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timarie's advice is pretty solid. i don't know what your budget is, but it's pretty hard to just move to NYC and afford a 1BR unless you have a
killer job/salary, particularly if you want to live anywhere remotely close to Manhattan. If you are willing to be further out or live in more "up and
coming" neighborhoods, that will definitely help. this may sound obvious, but bear in mind that not only is living in a 1BR pricey, but you'll also be
assuming all the other costs as well (electricity/cable/internet etc). as timarie also suggested, i would definitely go the broker route if you're going
for a 1BR (which will cost you 1 month's rent upfront). it does suck big time, but it is a quick process. hopefully you have good credit/salary while
trying to get your place. if not, it can get complicated with the whole guarantor requirement that some brokers/landlords impose. it even gets more complicated
because most want the guarantor to live in the tri-state area AND also make a great salary. there are some things you can do to minimize the scrutiny on those
things, but i'm trying to write more of a cliff note's version rather than a novel. if you have further questions though, i can answer them.
getting a roommate is definitely the most common thing for living out here, but can be an adventure in of itself. there are a lot of wacked out people, so be cautious. i advise giving the person a quick call first and feel them out that way. you can tell a lot from their listing(s) too and how it's written and what they expect. craigslist easily offers the biggest selection of potential places/roommates. you'll probably get to skip the broker's fee and even better yet, many people looking for roommates on craigslist have already been at their place for a while. The big upside to that is that the apartment is probably mostly furnished, but more importantly, they're probably locked into their rent price either because the unit is rent-controlled or the landlord really likes the tennant and hasn't jacked up the rent which means a noticable cost savings for you. however, this also has a major downside to it as well. for the aweomse apartments...where the price is great, there's a lot of space and the roommate is cool tend to go ridiculously fast. you have to be prepared to leave for this place right after it goes up on craigslist because some other interested person probably is just a few footsteps steps away and willing to check it out and throw down a deposit before you even get there. it's a mad rush. it's pretty nutty and insane, so beware. you're very lucky you have someone to stay with whilst looking. that'll give you time to look at neighborhoods and find the right fit for you. it may also afford you time to find a roommate so you 2 (or 3) could get a place together (via a broker) and that is very desirable thing to have. you're also lucky too because the price of rent here (while still ridiculously expensive) has gone down some because of the recession. it's not significant, but it's enough to warrant mentioning. i imagine it may drop even a little bit more too in the coming months. also, it's not advisable to start looking for a place more than a month in advance of your planned move-in date. you're just not going to find much of anything. in fact, most places become available and rented 2 weeks or less before the planned move-in date! it seems crazy, but places are snatched up the same day they become available often times. in fact, that happened with me and the place i live in now. i was visiting a broker and he had just gotten a call from a landlord about a place (that the broker had previously rented--so he was already familiar) and the people were still living in the apartment and i saw it, loved it and took it that day (even though i had to wait for a couple weeks for those people to move out)! it's nuts and unlike anything you're probably used to. another piece of advice...NYC ain't like anywhere else! and what i mean by that is most cities, apartment owners are trying to attract you to rent from them. but here, it's not like that at all. landlords pick and choose who they want as their tennants and will do so on whatever merits they chose. it seems unfair and it is to a large extent, but that's the way it is. however, again, having a broker will minimize this risk for you as the landlords tend to trust the judgment/relationship of the broker. in addition, many people do take the PATH from Jersey City/Hoboken/Newark to Manhattan. hoboken is ridiculously overpriced and newark is too far out IMO, but jersey city is mildly interesting because the places aren't too overpriced and it is a lot of space to be relatively close to manhattan. i don't think it's a good long-term solution for someone IMO, but it may not be a bad starting place for you. there are some downsides though to jersey. 1.) there are not very many cool shops/restaurants/bars in JC at all. if you want to go to cool places, you're going to have to commute into manhattan. 2.) you're going to have to buy 2 fares (a NJ fare and a NYC fare), which does get pricey, 3.) most apartments in jersey city are not super close to the PATH. sure, you can take a bus (or even walk), but again, that's an additional fare for the bus AND extra time to add on to your commute if you walk or take the bus, 4.) and this is a major pain in the rear, but the late night transportation situation is not desirable. the PATH does run every 30 minutes after 11PM (and it is usually on time so you can time it appropriately), but when you're wasted, you're not going to want to wait on the train at 2AM. further, if you want to taxi it back to your jersey apartment? it's going to be a $45 minimum with toll (not including tip). you're not likely to face exorbitant taxi fares like that in BK or Queens (unless you're way far out). lastly, my personal recommendation for the money/convenience is astoria in queens. i'm admittedly biased, but for the neighborhood/food/safety/people/apartment size/transportation (that can suck), it's the best bang for your buck. i'm pretty sure timarie will back me on that. |
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astoria is a lovely place to live, but the rent there is getting out of control seeing as my BFF just lost her teenyTINY 1 BR when her landlord tried to jack
up the rent to $1800 from $1100.
On another note, I would really wait to May to look when every new college grad from throughout the country is moving to NYC and sucking up all the available apts. |
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RichardYoung |
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Jen, it's actually gone down recently. You can get a really nice 1 BR now for around $1,300 in Astoria. Still pricey, but not too ridiculous given the
going rates. And you can get 2BRs there for somewhat reasonable...1500-1700 that aren't teeny.
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starlette10 |
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that is nuts. i need to tell my friend this. she was so bummed to move back with her parents in bayside. it almost doubles her commute.
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Dahlia L |
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It also depends on what kind of life style you want. When I was away at college my parents rented out my room and my sister's old room (she moved out
pertinently) for $350 and they bumped it up to $450 it had its own bathroom and it was in LIC. They also didn't pay utilities or anything. They did however
have to share the kitchen. The only request my parents ever made was that they do the dishes after they were used. All the people who came to the house were
from the Colombian Consulate or random Embassies/UN. Mainly college kids doing internships with the aforementioned places. I became close friends with all of
them and they've recommended my parents place to other people. Now, I'm most certainly not suggesting something like that...but worst case scenario
I'm sure renting a room in someone's home is also possible.
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pour voir tes yeux/La dernière pour voir ta
bouche/Et l'obscuritè tout entière pour me
rappeler tout cela/En te serrant dans mes
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dentedtictac |
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Thank you all so much for your advice! It's really helpful. I'm going a little crazy with all this moving talk. I live in Chicago now which I really do
love but I've lived my whole life here. An interesting development has occurred since my last post. I got offered a job here in Chicago doing the same job
for a different company and they are offering me almost 10 grand more than what the job in New York is offering me. The job wouldn't start until another
two months but I'm also okay with my serving job. It's easy and it's great cash! I originally intended on working another job once I got to New
York such as waiting tables but I just realized that my full time job is going to demand a lot of hours from me so I'm not sure I'll be able to even
pull off another job during the week. I don't mind working over weekends but I don't really see any decent restaurant in NY hiring someone who can only
work one or two nights a week. I'm only saying this because I've waited tables for a long time in Chicago and it's not always easy finding a part
time serving job at a decent restaurant. That's because most people in the nicer restaurants have a lot of career servers rather than part timers. So, if I
can't find another job, there's NO way I can afford living in NY....even if I did live in Astoria or elsewhere. So, now with all of the information I
have, I'm not quite sure moving to NY is a bright idea after all. Somebody had asked me about lifestyle and I'm not going to lie. I love fashion. I
love clothes. I mean, I'm an addict. I love going to nice restaurants, I love going to concerts, and in general, I have pretty expensive taste. RY, I
didn't know that you lived in NY. Thanks for your advice, it really helped. I never thought of the credit thing and though I don't have bad credit, I
also don't have the best credit in the world. Ha, you say that your advice was the cliff notes version but I think it's the longest and most thoughtful
response I've gotten from anyone I've asked so far! Thanks!
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Riss128 |
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i don't know if this is something you'd want to do, but have you thought of living in the suburbs upstate and commuting into the city by train? I
don't know how much apartments are going for up north, but that may be another idea if you want to still be close to the city and afford clothing
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yermama |
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Christine, sounds like Chicago is a better deal for you in many ways. Not the least of which is your likely discretionary budget in Chicago.
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Esmter |
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i still think everyone should live in nyc once in your life if given the chance. it makes you appreciate what you've got in other places (sq footage,
somewhat reasonable rent, the chance at parking) a lot more.
and it really is the greatest place on earth, despite all those things. would i move back there? no way in hell, unless i had a lot more money.
-Em
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irisheyes |
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I desperately want to live in NYC, like Em said - just for a year or two, to have the experience. Alas, I think that ship has sailed. Unless I win the lottery,
and the guy at Texaco who sold me my Mega Millions ticket yesterday said he felt I would win and that I had good luck. So, yeah. This could realistically
happen. Get ready NYC.
"Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." - Rudyard Kipling
"While I gave up God a long time ago, I never shook the habit of wanting to believe in something. So I replaced my creed of everlasting life with life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." - Sarah Vowell |
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Esmter wrote:I could not agree with this anymore. Give yourself 2 years (which is supposedly the timeline for when people decide if they wany to stay or go). It's not for everyone though. I think there are way too many people that can't handle it and I don't say that arrogantly. It's just not for every one. Though I think it's good in general to be pushed outside of your comfort zone some and unless you were born and raised, NYC will do that to you! But not only is the appreciation part true that was mentioned above, but there's more to it than that. It's really a life changing experience. I never thought I would live in NYC nor would I like it, but now I think it's going to be hard for me to move out of here. You really see America and humanity magnified in NYC in a way that you just don't see it anywhere else. It's eye-opening. But beyond that, I don't think you can find better food/restaurants consinstently anywhere else in the country and maybe not the world either. Not to mention, you probably won't have to worry about getting drunk and driving with most people not owning cars here. And in your younger years especially, that is a very valuable thing to have cabs everywhere that are reasonable to get to your apartment! |
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WordImLain |
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I'm obsessed with Astoria. Move here.
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rocknrollqueen |
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this is interesting.....
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/realestate/29cov.html Why Are These Renters Smiling? |
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