Thanks fot this, Joc. It was fun to read that old chat. Didn't he say almost the exact same thing about the Beatles in one of his Esquire articles a few years ago?

As for Wheel, it was first played live in Marysville, CA on 7/15/03, which was my first JM show. That was when Scotty used to do the old road journals and I remember he blogged about it. I remember John brought DRH out to play for part of that show, Michael Chaves and DeLa were still there of course, but I can't remember who the drummer was. Does anyone else know? I know it wasn't JJ.

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~Susan