Marcia wrote:
Cremallero wrote:
Carolina wrote:
You sound like a nice guy but  I can't believe this thread. He said:

"just to feel something, something that hurts me
the hurt makes me feel alive"

He should just be cutting himself. Same difference but not fucking over women in the process. 
You see though, he is already dead, at least he feels that way. He has exhausted himself and been wrung out so dry he is nothing, "dead".

The process of fucking over the woman both figuratively and literally, is the last thing he would ever want to do, however since everything else has failed, every option of chivalry, compromise and/or composure, has only left him feeling this way. It is this forbidden action that has never before been acted upon that may in fact provide him with some sort of sensation, even if it is shameful or gluttonous.

It really is a terrible resolution, pitiful closure, but a form of resolution and form of closure nonetheless, which sometimes may be thought to require a physical action to attain it. It is unfortunate but the truth, although John very well could have never made the phone call to have her, "Here by the end of the hour..." but what may have simply felt what is there to lose when you have already lost it all.


Lol this song is so real and raw, will always remain a painful favorite. smiley: smile
In a way, I think it is not uncommon that ppl have done this...however, there are many ways to deal with this  kind  of extreme depression and sadness>>>other ways, that would, perhaps, better serve him, and the woman he may never end up calling.  It is a very difficult situation to be in.  I'm sorry he has given and given and come up with nothing .  He sounds a bit sorry for himself. 
P.S.= I don't think what he is considering is "shameful and gluttonous".  Those are pretty powerful words.  I just don't think it is the most conscious of his options.  Have I done this, myself?  Yes, once or twice.  I also had a room mate who just let me sleep with him for quite a few nights when I was in the middle of a break-up (no sex, just holding and he was straight as an arrow) and I also had a one-night stand with someone because I had caught my boyfriend cheating; but, it was above board.  It got me through the night.  No strings.  

Oh no no no lol, I apologize if I presented the casual sexual experience as such a vulgar and obscene event. The majority partakes in this, sometimes at a seemingly subconscious level. However in this particular case, with our man with this hurt, this is completely conscious and on his mind. In these moments similar to the ones you described from your own personal life, it is sometimes about that getting through, that no strings attached, however I don't feel like this is what our man is seeking.

He fantasizes about this all throughout the track, but it seems to snowball throughout. Those first few stanzas:

I’m a good man
in a dark room
in a big town
under a full moon
it’s a friday and I’m almost home

I’m in a good place
full of head space
got a brand new pack in my suitcase
but it’s dinner and then it's bad alone

How do you break a mended heart?

I'm bored and want something to do


I feel these bolded lines are the closest we get to our man describing himself, seeing that he is both genuine and fearful.
That last italicized line is where I feel the song could branch either in the "woe is me" or the "psh, time to smash out some broad".

I tend to go with the former simply because of both the fact he is a good man along with the singer/songwriter of the song. It is the throwing p the hands out of pity for his own self, the "pkay, well look at me now", that surrending change to something he wasn't because everything he is has gotten him nowhere bu this pain. The only, and I mean only reason why he may (or may not) view such actions as gluttonous or shameful in nature is because it his not his own nature, a foreign route previously not taken because of himself being a good man. In my eyes, he is asking the question of how "you" could break his own heart, leading to him going down this path of humping and dumping this girl.

He is unsure if any woman deserves his love anymore, he just wants to feel something else than nothingness, acknowledging that it will "only get worse from there" and that "I could do better babe, but I can't do better now". This, more than anything indicates how bad of a place he is in. Where has the good man gone? He is now a un-humble shell of himself.

All through my own lense of course lol.

PS- Thanks for this little back and forth we are having, wonderful to actually be a part of a thread (forum) that has legit conversation. Awesome smiley: smile