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i figured she was going to be tapped for hhs...it was either hhs or education.
~ dawn
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yermama |
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Yeah, she's too good not to be in the administration. And I am resisting posting stuff like this from The Daily Show on the GOP thread, hehe:
Click on CPAC Afterparty
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well thank god jindal is there for everyone to give the lying a good, swift head start.
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gem77 |
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-Sarah
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yermama |
Feud of the Century - Daily Show vs CNBC | ||
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Wow. It's not often Jon Stewart gets this serious. Whatever the reason ( feeling super righteous from a massive 401K loss??) he ripped Cramer a new one
and Cramer kinda rolled over. And, yes Jon, it was as uncomfortable to watch as it must have been to conduct. Love
your graphic intro though.
Daily Show vs CNBC Yahoo News account of interview
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stillbill |
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it's amazing to see that i contributed more money last year to charity than our current vice president has. or more money over the last 10 years for
that matter. glad to see our VP is so patriotic.
The Bidens reported giving $995 in charitable donations last year - about 0.3% of their income and the highest amount in the past decade. The low was $120 in 1999, about 0.1% of yearly income. Over the decade, the Bidens reported a total of $3,690 in charitable donations, or 0.2% of their income. Biden spokesman David Wade said in an e-mail that the Bidens "also contribute to their favorite causes with their time as well as their checkbooks." Wade said Jill Biden has volunteered to help military families and the family "pitched in driving supplies to the Gulf Coast after Hurricane Katrina." Nationally, more than two-thirds of U.S. households reported giving to charity in 2004, with average contributions of $2,047 that year, according to a study released in January by the Center on Philanthropy at Indiana University. Those households who gave to charity averaged donations of about 3% of their income, says Patrick Rooney, the center's interim executive director. Another study of wealthy households in 2005 found average yearly donations of $40,746 from people with incomes from $200,000 per year to $500,000 per year, Rooney says. But like most statistics on giving, those numbers are skewed upwards by a small number of people who give large amounts to charity, says Rooney, formerly the center's research director. Other vice presidents have been criticized over their charitable contributions. Then-Vice President Al Gore came under fire when his 1997 tax return showed only $353 in donations to charity; he and his wife, Tipper, gave $15,000 to charity, or nearly 7% of their income, in each of the following two years. When Vice President Dick Cheney was campaigning in 2000, he defended his family's charitable donations of $209,832, or about 1%, of the $20.6 million he earned from 1989 to 1999. "It's a private matter … a matter of private choice," Cheney said in 2000. Last year, Cheney and his wife, Lynne Cheney, donated more than $166,000 to charity, or about 5.5% of their income, according to the Chronicle of Philanthropy. Obama and his wife, Michelle, released tax returns earlier this year showing they earned more than $4.2 million last year, about $4 million of it from sales of Obama's two books, Dreams from My Father and The Audacity of Hope. The Obamas gave more than $240,000 to charity last year, about 5.7% of their income, their tax return shows. Their charitable giving has risen with their income; in 2000, when the couple made $240,726, they gave $2,350 to charity, about 1% of their income. Republican presidential nominee John McCain reported income of $405,409 last year. His wife, Cindy McCain, the head of a Phoenix beer distributorship, files separate tax returns. McCain's campaign released only a summary of one of Cindy McCain's tax returns, showing she earned more than $6 million in 2006. John McCain reported giving more than $202,000 - a quarter of his income - to charity in 2006 and 2007, the only years for which his campaign released his tax returns. His campaign didn't release information about his wife's charitable contributions, however. In 2006, her total itemized tax deductions, a category which includes charitable contributions and other deductible items such as mortgage interest, was $569,737, or 9.3% of her income. The McCain campaign has not said when his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, will release her tax returns. The Democratic National Committee has criticized McCain for only releasing two years' worth of his returns, rather than the seven years' worth of complete returns released by Obama and the decade's worth from Biden. Compared with the two presidential candidates, Biden's income is much more modest. His earnings in the past decade ranged from a high of more than $320,000 in 2005 to a low of $210,797 in 1999. Besides his Senate salary and his wife's earnings, Biden also reported earning $20,500 a year from Widener University, where he's listed as an part-time, adjunct instructor of a constitutional law class. Widener has campuses in Delaware and Pennsylvania. |
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yermama |
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whoops, you meant to post that here.
and many liberals like to accuse republicans of not being generous? pssh. No, the cliche is that the liberals take issue about how the conservatives like to boast how generous they are. * Tax accountants in our town sit around the bar and tell war stories of how much coin they saved their conservative clients by last minute charitable contributions, mostly to conservative causes. Their take is that conservative giving has little to do with genuine philanthropy, and more to do with business decisions to avoid taxes. Regards MCain's contributions listed below - if my husband and I filed separately and he made $6 million+, I'd donate a quarter of my income too! Nothing like the security sugardaddy or mama to inspire charitable giving on one's own income..... It's all so relative. *Edited to add, I just realized that you equate charitable giving with patriotism. "glad to see our VP is so patriotic. " So that explains the boasting. I'm keeping my stock in Freedom fries as a sound investment.
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well bully for you. that's still 5x more than the average US household that gives.
-Em
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whoops, you meant to post that here. wrong! biden is a liberal. there's nothing wrong with posting his charitable contributions (or lack there of) in this thread. No, the cliche is that the liberals take issue about how the conservatives like to boast how generous they are.i'm willing to bet that conservatives, on the whole, DO contribute more money directly to charities than liberals. especially in politics. i will say...liberals in politics do spend a lot of money too...it's just not their money. it's the taxpayer's money they're so generous with. Tax accountants in our town sit around the bar and tell war stories of how much coin they saved their conservative clients by last minute charitable contributions, mostly to conservative causes. Their take is that conservative giving has little to do with genuine philanthropy, and more to do with business decisions to avoid taxes. it's the opinion of some tax accountants who are probably liberal to begin with. Regards MCain's contributions listed below - if my husband and I filed separately and he made $6 million+, I'd donate a quarter of my income too! Nothing like the security sugardaddy or mama to inspire charitable giving on one's own income..... it sure beats biden's 0.02% of his income!! any way you cut the cake, his $300K plus income is more than the average american. i make a lot less per year than joe biden and i contributed more to charity. and no, they weren't to conservative causes. the bottom line is his contribution amounts have been putrid, plain and simple. |
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well I am just chiming in because perhaps there are other people like me out there that don't tend to save every single receipt from every charitable
organization I give too (especially in church because in order to itemize those contributions you need good documentation) so I tend not to
"write-off" my charitable donations. I do claim for the receipts/notices I've managed to save but it's a small amount (couple hundred bucks).
Also I give money out of pocket all the time-for example I have a friend who used to be homeless who I often help out several times a year (to the tune of
hundreds of dollars each year) and I certainly don't claim that on my taxes.I also give at work and since we collect money and donate it as a group
(usually cash) I don't claim that either.
Mr. Biden is Catholic and most give about 10% to their church--and many times they do not write it off so frankly what is on your tax form is often not a reflection of how charitable you are. I'm skeptical of these numbers. |
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there are many charitable donations that are not specifically made to 501c3 orgs, so they aren't tax deductible - so using a tax return to calculate
charitable giving is misleading. ACLU, Sierra Club, and Greenpeace are big ones.
-Em
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I'm happy about this decision,
Freedom Tower had a freedom fries overtone at best. Using the World Trade Tower name again may not be the answer, but at least they aren't sticking with
a Bush slogan.
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this is kind of cool
http://blogs.usatoday.com/entertainment/2009/04/kal-penn-explains-why-hes-leaving-house-for-white-house.html#more Kal Penn explains why he's leaving 'House' for White House You can forget any more Harold & Kumar movies, says Kal Penn. At least for awhile. "I won't be acting while I'm working at the White House," a serious Penn, 31, said in a press call a few moments ago. His start date is "up in the air," but he'll be heading to Washington next week to find a place to live and acknowledges a paycut comes with the territory in his new job an associate director in the Office of Public Liaison. His new boss: Valerie Jarrett, special adviser to the president. It came about when Penn started working to get Barack Obama elected in October of 2007. He first met Obama then, and the president recognized him. Not from Harold & Kumar, but from House (which killed his character off last night). "He said, you're on that show," remembered Penn. "What show are you on?" When Penn said House, he replied. "The doctor show. It's good." Penn says there have never been stoner movie cracks from White House staffers or campaign colleagues. They were always focused on getting Obama elected and "driven by actual issues." Although he's giving up acting for now, he's not giving it up for good, and this was not a decision he took lightly, having discussed it with family and friends for the last "8 or 9 months." But "the folks who know me the best know of my dueling passions - for the arts and for public service." And his actual job, he says, will be to "go to communities and "continue the dialogue starting during the campaign." He adds that he didn't know he'd be killed off House. There was no discussion of a grand farewell for his Dr. Kutner character. "I was probably as shocked as the audience was when they found out." But those were his actual legs in the death scene, he notes, as it was designed to be "as authentic as possible." ~ dawn
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yermama |
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oh, I like the concept of Penn in the cabinet! Do we dare hope that with Kumar in the White House we can see a move toward the legalization of weed?
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yermama |
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I gave up the GOP thread for Lent (aka forever,) however, this bit from the Daily Show should be posted over there: Baracknophobia - Obey
"Being in the minority is supposed to taste like a shit taco......pace your rage."
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yermama wrote: why'd you give up on it? |
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holly, it would be amazing progress if legalizing marijuana were to occur...what i'm most impressed with on penn joining the adminstration is that he's
a fairly well recognized actor amongst the 18-34 year olds in the country, and he chose to go the path of public service and forego making boatloads of money.
not that he probably doesn't have a decent salary in dc...but it's going to be less than he makes now.
~ dawn
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yermama |
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I agree, Dawn. I really like the example he's setting.
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stillbill |
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yermama, do you have a hard time accepting the opinions of others, particularly if they clash with yours?
i'm trying to understand. i read this thread. i don't agree with a lot of it, but i'm not afraid of the opinions of others. |
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