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Jocelyn2003

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(06/26/2009 5:48 PM)

Your mouth was, so dirty...

Rivalius wrote:
Apparently he left the Beatles [catalog] to Paul McCartney in his will. Or so some site said back in January.

the reason no one mentions ringo is that i'm pretty sure MJ only owned the rights to specific lennon/mccartney-written songs. paul was actually the one that advised him to invest in music publishing, and apparently michael said "i'm gonna buy your songs" and paul thought he was kidding. say say say is one of my childhood favorites, incidentally, and my first childhood memory of being scared out of my mind was while listening to thriller. just listening. i thnik it might have been vincent price's voice.

great post, ry.

~jocelyn

jojo31

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(06/26/2009 7:51 PM)

Your mouth was, so dirty...

Forgive me if this has been posted: Meridith Viera quoted John this morning on the Today Show to the affect that a strand of our cultural DNA is altered. Not a direct quote, had trouble hearing as I was on the elleptical.

ToezinSand

Gone too soon....

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(06/27/2009 4:35 AM)

I'm never speaking up again...

I've done quite a bit of thinking since I first heard that Michael had died. I've done a good deal of observing as well. I found myself last night and today, not only watching what was being shown on TV but listening to various people in the industry commenting, and also listening to people on the Internet as well as people in my own life.

By the time I was alone tonight after my husband went to bed and it was time for me to put on my shows and relax uninterrupted, I noticed that I was a ball of tension after all that had transpired in the past two days..

As I tried to do a little self-analysis,I realized what this heavy duty tension was all about. I was disgusted and very disillusioned in people in general. Before I go any further, please realize that this post is most definitely not directed at anyone on this board. I am merely using the board to allow me to vent my feelings, but not because of anything that has been said here.

During the time that Michael Jackson was accused of molesting a young boy, I well remember the people in my own life as well as my online life and various famous people all playing Judge and Jury and condemning him as a waste of breathing air and space.....slime, low life, etc...... At the time, I bit my tongue.. You see I was in the minority. I always figured that the ones who charged him were simply looking to get rich either by Michael himself paying them off or by getting a media deal for a book or movie. But most anyone I knew thought otherwise. It's sometimes hard to be the "odd man out" lol.

No doubt, Michael was to say the least, a bit eccentric, but if anyone did a little research, the odd behavior or at least most of it could be easily understood given his childhood or lack thereof. I saw and read the details of his formative years with an abusive, controlling Joe Jackson and never being allowed to be a child. I always felt his child like ways were chalked up to a kid that grew up not only in the spotlight, but grew up with a father that ruled with an iron hand and never allowed him to be a child. I never thought he was guilty. Not a popular opinion with many people I know..

But what irritated me both last night and all day today from people in my life, to people I know online to the media is the way they totally reversed everything they had ever thought of him. Now he was a legend and a hugely talented artist who left his mark in the world.

Maybe I'm making too much of it, but I just can't stand the fake BS from those suddenly touting him as one of greatest musical talents. If they had nothing good to say about him when he was alive, then they hadn't ought to be singing his praises now when he died. It truly sickens me. I really can't even put it into words the way I want to.

MJ was someone that I, as well as some of you grew up with.. It was Donny Osmond, David Cassidy and MJ hanging on my walls when I was a kid. (showing my age here!). He was both a part of my growing up years and my young adulthood. He was an amazing talent...... so truly gifted in the highest sense of the word. Nobody and I do mean Nobody has the kind of energy and raw talent that he had. I could just sit and watch him dance for hours.....so natural, but so energy charged!

He loved people, he loved children and what is less known or talked about is how much he helped people, often donating of his time and money for less fortunate. I will always smile when I hear MJ's songs.

Such great memories!

Here's to you Michael Jackson! Here's hoping that you are happy where you are right now. Nobody will ever make fun of you again. You can be a child all day long if you like. Thank you for some of the greatest music and dancing of our time. This old lady from way down South will definitely miss you and your talent.

My prayers and thoughts are with Michael's family, his parents, his siblings, his children and all those that he called his friend. Rest in peace gentle soul.......

Sorry for the long rant. Watching this whole tragedy and knowing of the inevitable upcoming drama over his death, the custody battle that will no doubt ensue over his children and repeatedly watching people suddenly start to care about him because he died, was just a little more than my tolerant and patient nature could handle.....

Thanks for reading...........
Steph

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(06/27/2009 9:29 AM)

Steph...

I couldn't agree more. I think MJ spent his life trying to achieve the childhood he was denied -- everything from the exotic pets to the plastic surgery. Probably down to hanging out with boys (though I will reserve judgment on what actually went down with that situation, I don't want to deny anyone's pain if something tragic actually did happen.)

He was a little boy lost, with a tremendous, universal talent.

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you tire me

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(06/27/2009 9:21 PM)

ciamar wrote:

I LOVED that picture of him! His yellow tie and vest, his pin, his eyes, the way he's standing-- it's always been one of my favorites.

It's so unbelievable to me that he's gone. I remember my mom letting me stay up with a friend to watch Thriller. We loved it! My mom later told me that she really enjoyed watching us watch the video, especially the dance parts.

My dad called me the day after Michael died to ask if I had heard the news. He also told me that he went up to my old room and found my old Michael Jackson albums and 45s (shut up). Now I wish a had a record player!!!

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OoLaLana

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(06/28/2009 1:33 PM)

Bust down the double doors...

Steph - Lesson learned here is to distance yourself from tabloid media and becoming involved with the judgmental conversations they generate. Find an honest and trustworthy entertainment news source and disregard the rest, and do step up to add a quiet voice of reason if you feel you must. Unfortunately too many feed the beast -- die perezhilton.com -- but at least you can make that choice for yourself and stand with that decision. Change others by setting an example.

What I've been delighted in witnessing the last few days is how Deepak Chopra has bravely stepped into the fray to use truth as his weapon in defending his friend of 20 years. He was wise to strategically get his story out there quickly, before the wall of journalistic crap was built too high. His son (Gotham) and daughter (Mallika) also used the power of the pen, dipped in honesty, to battle against the surge of lies.

I highly recommend you read these blogs - written by people who obviously knew him very well - and keep this perspective in mind in the days to come when the media twists things to sustain and perpetuate the sad circus for their own gain. The Chopra family obviously loved their friend, for all his strengths and flaws, and wanted to do what they could in honor of that relationship. It's nice to see someone stepping up and taking positive action on behalf of Michael and the children.

You can bet I'll be looking to them as an honest source of information and insight.

Mallika - "Bloodsuckers and The World of Michael Jackson" http://tinyurl.com/lkmaxd
Deepak - "A Tribute to My Friend, Michael Jackson" http://tinyurl.com/qm3g7c
Gotham - "Writing Songs with My Friend Mike" http://tinyurl.com/l5ser7

...and the funny thing is, as JM fans we KNOW the media fabricates these things, so why do we forget to apply that nugget of insight to other celebrities and the news surrounding them?

ciamar

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(06/29/2009 12:43 PM)

I'm never speaking up again...

Remembering Michael

John Mayer

John Mayer is a Grammy-winning, multiplatinum-selling recording artist.

People don't get upset when they talk about Michael Jackson dying, they get upset when they talk about how much a part of their life it was. I mean, what are the 80's? A Rubik's Cube, 3D glasses and Michael Jackson. And that's the giant cornerstone that's gone. He's one of the few crossover artists that would make even the most radical white supremacists say, "Well he's not black - he's Michael Jackson." He's not black, he's Barack Obama. He's not black, he's Jimi Hendrix. He's not black, he's Tiger Woods. (Read "Michael Jackson and the Black Experience.")

As a musician, the man was one of the purest substances ever in music. But it's frustrating, and somewhat pointless, to ever try and figure out how Michael Jackson arrived at an album like Thriller and how you could arrive at something like it. It's impossible. I mean it's one of those things you actually don't want to bring up to musicians because they don't want to remember that that kind of greatness is achievable, because it skews the entire bell curve completely. (Watch TIME's video "Appreciating Michael Jackson, the Musician.")

Michael Jackson proves, in a really sort of perverse way, that maybe we're not as offended by your behavior as we are entranced by your music. And think about that. Think about what level of quality you must have to attain to have somebody say, "I know that you're accused of having molested children, but I can't hate you for that as much as I love you for your music." I'm not saying that's right or wrong. But I'm saying that its fascinating. That somebody could be that great. That somebody could have that much of a marriage with your emotions just through music.

There's just one Michael Jackson now. We don't have to reconcile the Michael Jackson we love with another Michael Jackson. In a way, he has returned to pristine condition in death. We can be free now for the rest of our lives to love the Michael Jackson we used to love.

See TIME's special report "1989: The Year That Changed the World."

See TIME's full Michael Jackson coverage.

~Cia

But then, the circle of your friends will defend the silver lining...

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(07/06/2009 5:37 PM)

Usher, Stevie Wonder, John Mayer, Mariah Carey and more stars have been confirmed to partake in Michael Jackson's memorial service tomorrow, July 7th, at Los Angeles' Staples Center. Jennifer Hudson, Smokey Robinson and Lionel Richie will also appear at the televised event, which will additionally feature actress Brooke Shields and Los Angeles Lakers stars Kobe Bryant and Magic Johnson. Johnson appeared in Jackson's "Remember the Time" video. An official press release added that the lineup was preliminary and subject to change, opening the door for rumored participants like Justin Timberlake to be involved. The Jackson family wouldn't shed any light on who will be performing what songs at the memorial, but as Rock Daily reported earlier, TMZ claims Mariah Carey will perform the Jackson 5's "I'll Be There," a hit that Carey covered for her MTV Unplugged performance in 1992. The song was co-written by Berry Gordy, who will also appear onstage at the memorial. Usher, Wonder, Carey and Mayer were among the dozens of artists who mourned the passing of Michael Jackson in the hours after the King of Pop's death. "A major strand of our cultural DNA has left us," Mayer said on his Twitter. "RIP MJ. I think we'll mourn his loss as well as the loss of ourselves as children listening to Thriller on the record player. I truly hope he is memorialized as the '83 moonwalking, MTV owning, mesmerizing, unstoppable, invincible Michael Jackson." One person who will not be attending the memorial is Jackson's ex-wife Debbie Rowe, who said in a statement to TMZ through her lawyer, "The onslaught of media attention has made it clear her attendance would be an unnecessary distraction to an event that should focus exclusively on Michael's legacy. Debbie will continue to celebrate Michael's memory privately." Here's the entire Michael Jackson memorial roster, as it stands now: Ron Boyd (family friend); Kobe Bryant; Mariah Carey; Andrae Crouch Choir; Berry Gordy; Jennifer Hudson; Shaheen Jafargholi (finalist on Britain's Got Talent); Magic Johnson; Martin Luther King III; Bernice A. King; John Mayer; Lionel Richie; Smokey Robinson; Rev. Al Sharpton; Brooke Shields; Pastor Lucious Smith (family friend); Usher; and Stevie Wonder.

"People are like boxes of colors. Sometimes you meet the standard 16 count. I like to consider myself the 64 count box with the sharpener in the back. Lately I've been meeting the jumbo 8 kind. Its like your talking to someone about magenta & she says 'Oh, purple. I know that game' & you're like 'no bitch I'm talking about magenta!" ~ JM

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